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International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN) - Interview

The Call from Oslo

Listen to when Executive Director of ICAN Beatrice Fihn receives the news that International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons has been awarded the 2017 Nobel Peace Prize.

"This Will Mean the World to Us"

Telephone interview with Beatrice Fihn, Executive Director of ICAN, following the announcement of the 2017 Nobel Peace Prize on 6 October 2017. The interviewer is Adam Smith, Chief Scientific Officer of Nobel Media.

Beatrice Fihn describes the significance for ICAN of receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. In the interview, recorded immediately after she had heard the news, she also describes the groundswell of public opinion bringing new momentum to efforts to ban nuclear arms, commenting: "The cold war is over a long time ago, we can no longer accept these weapons."

[Adam Smith]: First of all congratulations on the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to ICAN.

[Beatrice Fihn]: Thank you, this is very, very surreal. [Laughs] I'm sorry.

AS: In their statement the Norwegian Nobel Committee describe a new momentum behind efforts to rid the world of nuclear weapons. Where do you think that new energy is coming from?

BF: I think it comes from just mobilising people around the world. I think with 21st century, having, using weapons of mass destruction to kill civilians is no longer acceptable. The Cold War is over a long time ago, we can no longer accept these weapons and I think that perspective has really mobilised a new generation of campaigners and the people who have been working on this for a very long time.

AS: Last month the majority of nations voted to adopt a new treaty prohibiting nuclear weapons. That has still to be ratified but what do you think the treaty will achieve when ratified?

BF: I think it will achieve a lot of pressure on states to sign the treaty. There's a lot of governments who have not yet signed it so it increases the pressure on them. It stigmatises nuclear weapons. It declares under international law that these weapons are unacceptable and now illegal as well, so I think it's a very strong signal to nuclear arms states that they have to disarm and it's not just, it's not just a symbolic treaty, it will have concrete impact on policies and practice.

AS: Thank you. And what do you think the award of the Nobel Peace Prize will do for your work at ICAN?

BF: Oh it will mean everything for us. I think it's really, you know, we're a small organisation. We have a lot of organisations that are members but have worked with little resources and lack of media attention to this issue and kind of ignored by mainstream media so I think this will really, this will mean the world to us. This is going to change everything.

AS: And ICAN is a collective of worldwide partner organisations isn't it?

BF: Yes we are 468 organisations. In 101 countries.

AS: That's truly a worldwide movement.

BF: Yes.

AS: And lastly, if individuals want to get involved in your campaign, what can they do to help?

BF: I think they can get really active, demand their governments to sign this treaty and to ratify this treaty. Make sure to challenge policies that rely on nuclear weapons, even in countries that don't have nuclear weapons that are part of nuclear weapons alliances. Countries can sign this treaty and should sign this treaty and should reject nuclear weapons. So there's lot of potential to get involved.

AS: So if people want to put pressure, what's the best thing they could do?

BF: Demand their governments to sign this treaty.

AS: Right. Ok. And lastly you as executive director, how do you feel about this news?

BF: Completely overwhelmed right now. I feel like I can't really think very much.. Extremely happy. This has been a collective work by so many people around the world for a long time and it's just a really a huge honour for all of us to receive this.

AS: Once again many congratulations on the award and thank you very much for speaking to us. Thank you.

BF: Thank you very much. Thank you.

奥斯陆来电

听听国际废除核武器运动组织(ICAN)执行主席碧翠丝·菲恩获悉该组织被授予2017年诺贝尔和平奖时的感言。

“这对我们的意义堪比征服世界”

2017年10月6日2017年诺贝尔和平奖揭晓后对ICAN执行主席碧翠丝·菲恩进行了电话采访。采访人是诺贝尔传媒部科学总监亚当·史密斯。

碧翠丝·菲恩一获知消息就接受了采访。她阐述了荣获诺贝尔和平奖对于ICAN的非凡意义。在采访中，她还描述了日益强大的公众观点给禁核武行动带来新动力，并指出：“冷战早已结束，我们不能再容忍这类武器。”

亚当·史密斯（下简称AS）：首先祝贺贵组织荣获诺贝尔和平奖。

碧翠丝·菲恩（下简称BF）：谢谢你，这非常非常不真实。【大笑】对不起。

AS：据挪威诺贝尔委员会的声明描述，消除世界核武器的行动背后有一个新动力。你认为这一新能量来自哪里？

BF：我认为就是因为发动了全世界的人民。我认为，时至21世纪，拥有和使用大规模杀伤性武器杀死平民不再能被接受。冷战早已结束，我们不能再容忍这类武器，我认为这一观念真正动员了新一代的组织成员以及长期致力于这项事业的人们。

AS：上个月大多数国家投票通过了一项新的禁止核武器条约。虽然仍有待最终批准，但你认为该条约获批准后会达到什么效果？

BF：我认为它将给各国施加强大压力，促使他们签约。仍有很多国家的政府未签约，因此它增加了他们头上的压力。它使核武器名不正言不顺。它依据国际法宣布这类武器既不被接受，现在也不合法，所以我想这是对拥有核武器国家释放的一个强烈信号，那就是他们必须解除核武，而且它不仅是一份象征性条约，还将对政策和实践产生具体影响。

AS：谢谢你。你认为荣获诺贝尔和平奖将对你在ICAN的工作有何作用？

BF：噢它对我们来说意味着一切。你知道，我们是一个小组织。我们有很多成员组织，但我们掌握和能调动的资源很少，而且缺少媒体对这一问题的关注，主流媒体有点忽视我们，因此我认为这次获奖实在是雪中送炭，对我们的意义堪比征服世界。这将改变一切。

AS：ICAN是世界各地合作组织组成的一个联盟，对吗？

BF：是的，我们有468个组织。来自101个国家。

AS：那真是一项世界性运动。

BF：是的。

AS：最后，如果个人想参与你们的运动，应该怎么做才能帮上忙呢？

BF：我想他们可以积极参与，要求他们的政府签署并批准这项条约。务必抗议依赖核武器的政策，甚至是在没有核武器却是核武联盟成员的国家。国家可以签署并且应该签署这项条约，还应该拒绝核武器。所以要想参与有多种可能。

AS：那么如果人们想施加压力，最好是做什么？

BF：要求他们的政府签署这项条约。

AS: 不错。好的。最后，你作为执行主席对这个消息作何感想？

BF：现在完全不知所措。我感觉实在没法想太多.. 高兴疯了。长期以来，这一直是世界各地千千万万人的集体努力，获奖对我们所有人来说都是一项殊荣。

AS：再一次热烈祝贺你们获奖，也非常感谢你接受我们采访。谢谢你。

BF：非常感谢你。谢谢你。

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